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puzzled
Post subject: actually using firefox download  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 04:43 AM



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Hello,

I downloaded the latest update of Firefox and it ended up as on icon on my screen '1.5.04 tar gz'. I right clicked it, selected 'extract', and got another icon without the tar gz. I presume that the file is now uncompressed.

Now how do I actually get to use the new Firefox? If I click on it I end up with a smaller window full of more icons. What I want to do is to replace the Firefox version I'm using now with the new one. Do I somehow have to install to the hard drive?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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hubi
Post subject: actually using firefox download  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 05:03 AM



Joined: Jan 22, 2006
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Open the console (shell, terminal - how ever it is called) and do:

su -
[type your root-Password]
apt-get update
apt-get install firefox

This should give you the newest version, and you do not need to fiddle around with sources. Firefox and it's dependencies will be installed automagically. Check before if sthg is deinstalled - happens sometimes if just one application is updated in Sid.

Greetings
hubi

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stryder
Post subject: RE: actually using firefox download  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 05:19 AM



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What you downloaded should also work but it does not replace the one that is installed. To replace the one installed follow hubi's instructions.

You can still use the firefox you downloaded...

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... but it is not recommended that you do so. (see below).


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slam
Post subject: RE: actually using firefox download  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:40 AM



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Please don't encourage beginners to use stand-alone packages on a Debian system! There is only one proper way to install an application in Kanotix/Debian Sid:
Code:
apt-get update && apt-get install application

This will install the latest and newest, will take care of all dependencies or possible conflicts, will create proper initial configuration files and takes care for all those little differences between Debian and other Linux-colors. If you don't like typing into the console, use Synaptic or Kpackage to do the same.
From live-CD (or in very special situations for non-production systems) you may use Klik for installing stand-alone packages (it comes pre-installed with Kanotix).
All other possibilities of installing (dpkg, alien, checkinstall, install or running an installer script) need advanced understanding of the Debian packaging system and should be used only if you really know what you're doing.
99,9% of all usefull applications can be found and installed via apt, and you should be aware that there is always a serious reason for the remaining 0,1% not already beeing there included.
Greetings,
Chris

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puzzled
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 03:12 PM



Joined: Jun 28, 2006
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Hello Guys,

Thanks for your replies. I tried the apt-get command in a console and all went well for two hours. Unfortunately I'm on dial-up with a 'two hour only' continuous connection and I got cut off in the downloads prime.

I can see that if I want to pursue a Linux education, which I do, I shall have to consider broadband. So until then I shall have to make do with what came on the CD.

I appreciate your willingness to help a beginner and will, no doubt, be back to this excellent forum.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 04:59 PM
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Kmenu > Internet > Kget

Download manager that will let you pause/resume downloads, should be useful for dial-up

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Richard
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:10 PM



Joined: Nov 07, 2005
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If you can swing the broadband connection, it will change your computer life for the better.

the command that hubi described:
# apt-get install firefox
shouldn't take longer than about 30 minutes on dial-up,
at ca.50kbps (IIRC).

Richard.


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slh
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 08:33 PM



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apt-get will resume where it was interrupted.
 
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hubi
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 05, 2006 - 11:30 PM



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puzzled,

if you are on a dial-up connection, try to get Kanotix releases offline. It is no hazard to run "older" applications on Linux for a few months. And the CD-upgrade-routine with Kanotix is by far the best I have ever experienced with Linux, actually it's a genius - Kano should get a 10 billion dollar patent on that one.

Just enjoy it, it's not a wormhole,
hubi

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puzzled
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 06, 2006 - 06:13 AM



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Hi All,

Yes, I can see that broadband will change me life for ever. Not least because my wife will be able to use the phone at the same time as I'm on line!

Getting very interested in Linux and Kanotix. All I really need to do is write letters and newsletters, send emails, buy from Ebay, and keep a small database of members belonging to a charity of which I'm secretary. Open Office does it all beautifully with far less trouble than I had with Windows.

Now getting time to really get to grips with Linux is another matter. When I decide to buckle down to it, I'll come back and ask the best way to go about starting from the beginning. Till then, please stay prepared to help out with the occasional problem - as you have done already.

Very grateful. Best wishes to All.
 
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