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					| Titel: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA!).  Verfasst am: 19.11.2006, 18:35 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Just when you think things are going well! 
 Don't recall why, but last night I messed up (something to do with extensions or similar) and had to try to install firefox 2.
 
 My efforts were pretty messy, but this morning I managed to sort that. Now none of my plugins seem to work. Realplayer, Flash, Java etc etc. Even though if I look at synaptic, they all seem to be installed.
 
 If I then do about:plugins in FF2 it tells me that they're not. If I get the "missing plugins" window from FF2 (e.g. for java/jre) it has it "ticked" but isn't working.
 
 Is this likely to be because of the FF2 not working with stuff downloaded via the kanotix/debian repo's and need to be installed by hand from tar.gz's and bin files or am I missing something?
 
 Any guidance is much appreciated, because I can't find anything from a search that I understand.
 
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 19.11.2006, 18:49 Uhr |  | 
  
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 19.11.2006, 20:46 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | OK, the firefox was installed from their site (tar.gz format I think?). 
 I've copied all the plugins files from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to the /usr/lib/firefox folder (presuming of course, that thats the "right" one, but have no way of acertaining whether it is or not).
 
 Read through some of the items in your link re your firefox info - most of which, I don't really understand - hence, plugins (specifically the flashplayer) still not working and I'm still stumbling round the net to see if theres anything that sounds/looks familiar.
 
 TVM though
 
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 19.11.2006, 23:00 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | For flash remove the flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so from (with firefox closed) 
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (if it exists)
 /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (if it exists)
 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins (if it exists)
 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree (if it exists)
 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir  (if it exists)
 
 Use h2's script (cleanup stuff) or orphan to cleanup
 
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apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 
 Java
 
 
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dpkg --purge sun-j2re1.4
 
 which is located at
 
 /usr/lib/jvm
 
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apt-get install sun-java5-jre
 
 
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apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
 
 Not really needed but if you want
 
 apt-get install sun-java5-fonts
 
 apt-get install ttf-baekmuk ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp libmyodbc tfm-arphic-bsmi00lp
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 20.11.2006, 04:08 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Unless you place Firefox 2.0 in /usr/lib somewhere the /usr/lib/firefox that is there is for the existing Debian version. 
 Copy the plugins to the directory where you extracted 2.0, for me I just place it in my home folder.
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 20.11.2006, 20:57 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Now I'm really confused! 
 The ones that piper suggested i.e. the ones that need removing, where done. Erm I couldn't find flashplayer.xpt anywhere???
 
 I don't know how or what h2's cleanup script is, so I just did d-u with h2's du script and did the "orphan" thing that way - I presume that that would/should have done the trick.
 
 All of the other suggested packages all came up as "already the most recent"
 
 I think I understand what craigevil is suggesting. My problem is how to work out where the Firefox 2.0 mentioned actually is/was extracted to, so that I can place it where suggested (or can I just overwrite the version that may or may not be there already?
 
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 20.11.2006, 21:04 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | fatbloke, better get rid of that ff2, iceweasel will be in sid tonite.
 
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 20.11.2006, 21:36 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | devil, 
 oooh! and I am longing for iceape, hope it's as good as the mozilla suite.
 
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					| Titel: RE: FF2 and "nice too have" plugins (complete PITA  Verfasst am: 20.11.2006, 23:57 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | apt-get update just showed iceweasel now but when I tried install its not really there yet...bah just uninstalled firefox too, ah well get it in the morning, 
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 21.11.2006, 03:39 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | And...there it is! Built-in spell check and all. 
 Still answers to the name "mozilla-firefox" --
 
 andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 mozilla-firefox -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel
 
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 andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la firefox
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 firefox -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel
 andrew@ninnyhammer:/usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 19:23 iceweasel -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel
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					| Titel:  Verfasst am: 21.11.2006, 04:51 Uhr |  | 
  
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          | Weird 
 piper@KanotixBox:/usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
 bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory
 
 
 piper@KanotixBox:/usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Nov 20 21:33 iceweasel -> ../lib/iceweasel/iceweasel
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          | ls -la iceweasel ls: iceweasel: No such file or directory
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
 ls: mozilla-firefox: No such file or directory
 
 and that is after installing iceweasel
 
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ /usr/bin$ ls -la mozilla-firefox
 bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ /usr/bin$ ls -la iceweasel
 bash: /usr/bin$: No such file or directory
 
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis iceweasel
 iceweasel: /usr/bin/iceweasel /etc/iceweasel /usr/lib/iceweasel /usr/X11R6/bin/iceweasel /usr/bin/X11/iceweasel /usr/share/iceweasel /usr/share/man/man1/iceweasel.1.gz
 
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis firefox
 firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox /usr/bin/X11/firefox /usr/share/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz
 
 craig@KanotixBox:~$ whereis mozilla-firefox
 mozilla-firefox: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/bin/X11/mozilla-firefox /usr/share/man/man1/mozilla-firefox.1.gz
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          | Well ive been google searching like mad from the toolbar in effort to generate money for debian, not an exciting update for me tho- ive been using swiftfox 2.0 for some weeks.... |  
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          | wegface hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
Well ive been google searching like mad from the toolbar in effort to generate money for debian, not an exciting update for me tho- ive been using swiftfox 2.0 for some weeks....
 
 Can't get enough of that Swiftfox.  It simply kicks some booty.
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          | mzilikazi hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
Can't get enough of that Swiftfox.  It simply kicks some booty.
 
 Yeah, I'm also a happy Swiftfox user and the response is clearly better than with the standard Firefox. Maybe not so much of a difference on a fast machine but atleast on a slower one like my pIII-450 (P3 optimized build).
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          | Well I've just done as craigevil suggested and installed iceweasel. 
 Curious though, it installed straight over the firefox stuff in my system (as far as I can tell), even though the firefox was installed from either download i.e. from the mozilla site rather from the repository offerings.
 
 It occured to me that I'll have to see if theres anything of the original files left to get rid of them, or will the iceweasel installation have overwritten all of them ??? i.e. the shortcut I made was also changed etc etc.
 
 It's not that I'm moaning about it, far from it. It seems fine. It's just that not knowing much about how this all actually works, and what with (AFAIK) iceweasel being a rebadged/remaned firefox (2), does this mean that it's subject to any of the faults/upgrades/updates etc that firefox (given that someone has announced that they found a security issue with FF2 on digg and other locations today)???
 
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